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Specialization: Pedodontics (Pediatric Dentistry)

Areas of Interest

-Pediatric Dental Treatments

-Dental Treatments Under General Anesthesia

-Pediatric Zirconium Crowns

-Pediatric Stainless Steel Crowns

-Treatment of Traumatic Dental Injuries in Children

Education

2007 – DDS, Marmara University, Faculty of Dentistry

2015 – RWTH Aachen University, Germany

2020 – Ph.D., Department of Pedodontics, Marmara University, Faculty of Dentistry

Professional Experience

2021 to 2024 – Assistant Professor, Bahçeşehir University, Faculty of Dentistry

Professional Memberships

-Turkish Dental Association (TDB)

-Istanbul Chamber of Dentists (İDO)

-Turkish Society of Pedodontics (TPD)

-International Society for Laser Dentistry (ISLD)

Research & Publications

Kuru R, Yılmaz S, Balan G, Tuzuner BA, Taşlı PN, Akyüz S, Yener Öztürk F, Altuntaş Y, Yarat A, Şahin F.
Boron-rich diet may regulate blood lipid profile and prevent obesity: A non-drug and self-controlled clinical trial. J Trace Elem Med Biol, 2019.

Kuru R, Balan G, Yılmaz G, Yılmaz S, Taşlı PN, Akyüz S, Yarat A, Şahin F.
The level of two trace elements in carious, non-carious, primary, and permanent teeth. European Oral Research, 2020.

Balan G, Peeters HH, Akyüz S.
The assistance of Er, Cr: YSGG laser in pulp injury related to anterior teeth trauma. Dental Journal (Majalah Kedokteran Gigi), 2019.

Education & Specialization

•2009 to 2014 Başkent University Faculty of Dentistry

•2017 to 2021 Biruni University Faculty of Dentistry Orthodontics-Ph.D.

Experience

•2015 Baskent University Dental Hospital (Istanbul)-General Dentist

•2016 Hospitadent Dental Hospital-General Dentist

•Hospitadent Dental Hospital-Orthodontic Specialist

Courses & Certifications

•Damon Master Academy Course-June 1, 2021

•Myobrace Course-November 2, 2021

•Invisalign Provider Certificate-November 7, 2020

Professional Memberships

•Member of Turkish Dentists

•Member of Turkish Orthodontic Society

•Member of Turkish Aligner Association

Research and Articles

•Demirel B, Gülyurt M. Fixed Functional Appliance Treatment of Class 2 Division II Young Adult Patient: Case Report. 17. Türk Orthodontics Derneği Sanal Kongresi.2021.

Experience

DentSpa Oral and Dental Health Clinic

Oral and Maxillofacial Surgeon
December 2020 – Present, İstanbul/Turkey

Dentsitanbul Hospital

GOral and Maxillofacial Surgeon
May 2016 – July 2021, İstanbul/Turkey

Medipol Uni. Dept of OMFS

Ast. Prof. Dr. Member of Faculty
May 2012 – December 2015, İstanbul/Turkey

Kocaeli Uni. Dept. of OMFS

Ast. Prof. Member of Faculty
May 2009 – April 2012, Kocaeli/Turkey

Marmara Uni. Dept of OMFS

Chief Asistant
September 2007 – November 2008, İstanbul/Turkey

Education

Marmara University Dept. of OMFS

Oral and Maxillofacial Surgeon
September 2002 -November 2008, İstanbul/Turkey

Marmara University Faculty of Dentistry

Dentist
September 1995 – June 2001, İstanbul/Turkey

Publications

• Gökhan Gürler, Serdar Yılmaz, Çağrı Delilbaşı, Emrah Dilaver, A. Patır Münevveroğlu. Conservative surgical treatment of the jaw cysts in children: case study of five patients. Nigerian Journal of Clinical Practice, 2017, 20(9):1216-1220
• Gökhan Gürler, Serdar Yılmaz, Çağrı Delilbaşı, Merva Soluk Tekkeşin. A large mass in the mandible of an eight year old child. Selcuk Dent J. 2017, 4:101-105
• Önjen Tak, Serdar Yılmaz, Emre Özel, Meral Kavak. Five-year clinical follow-up of a patient with radicular cyst in the maxillary anterior region. European Journal of Prosthodontics. 2016, 4(1):17
• Özer N, Üçem F, Saruhanoğlu A, Yilmaz S, Tanyeri H. Removal of a maxıllary third molar dısplaced ınto pterygopalatıne fossa vıa ıntraoral approach. Balk J Stom 2012; 16:179-180
• Cilasun Ü, Sinanoğlu E.A, Yılmaz S, Güzeldemir E, Alnıaçık. An Unusual Laryngeal Complication Following Inferior Alveolar Nerve Block. G. Balk J Stom, 2012; 16:179-180
• Özkan Y, Liaje A, Şahin C, Akalın F, Yılmaz S. Subperiostal tünel tekniği ile otojen blok greft uygulamaları. Türk Dişhekimleri Dergisi, 2008, 73:134-141
• Selçuk Basa, Serdar Yılmaz, Altan Varol. Treatment of midface retrusion by maxillary distraction: comparison of rigid intraoral and extraoral distraction systems. Int. J. Oral and Maxillofacial Surgery. 2007, 36(11):1001
• Basa S, Varol A, Yılmaz S. Transport distraction osteogenesis of a dentoalveolar segment in the posterior mandible: a technical note. J Oral Maxillofac Surg. 2007, 65(9): 1862-1864
• Altan Varol, Serdar Yılmaz, Selçuk Basa. Alveolar Distraction Osteogenesis in posterior mandibular ridges. Journal of Cranio-Maxillofacial Surgery. 2006, 34(1):22-23
• Serdar Yılmaz, Selçuk Basa. The case dependant alveolar reconstruction in oral implantology: Criterias for preferring between alveolar distraction osteogenesis and autogenous bone grafting. Int. Journal of Oral and Maxillofacial Surgery. 2005, 34(1):40
• Yılmaz S, Garip H, Akyüz S, Göker K. Süt dişi çekimi sırasında çocuk davranışlarının Frankl endeksine göre değerlendirilmesi ve bazı fiziksel bulguların saptanması. Akademik Dental, 2003, 5(4):38-44

Oral Presentations and Papers in the Congress

• Ayça Yılmaz, Serdar Yılmaz, Önjen Tak, Işıl Karagöz-Küçükay. Immediate self-replantation of an avulsed tooth and multidiciplinary management after 10-years. IADT 18th World Congress of Dental Traumatology. İstanbul, Turkey, June 2014.
• Serdar Yılmaz, Nedim Özer, Gökhan Gürler, Şükran Tüfekçioğlu, Emrah Dilaver. ‘Total Maxilary Reconstruction Using Anterior Iliac Bone Graft in Atrophic Maxilla: Two Different Techniques.’ ACBID 2014 8th International Congress, Antalya, Turkey, 28 May-1 June 2014.
• Serdar Yılmaz, Nedim Özer, Gökhan Gürler, Emrah Dilaver, Şükran Tüfekçioğlu. ‘Craniofacial Fibrous Dysplasia Threatening Airway: Case Report.’ ACBID 2014 8th International Congress, Antalya, Turkey. 28 May-1 Jube 2014.
• Serdar Yılmaz, Nazlı Altın, Emrah Dilaver, Nedim Özer. ‘Assesment of Accuracy of Preoperative Cephalometric Surgical Planning in Orthognathic Surgery.’ 21st International Conference on Oral and Maxillofaical Surgery, Barcelona, Spain, 21-24 October 2013.
• Serdar Yılmaz, Ülkem Cilasun, Ali İjya Karaman. ‘An unexpected problem during bimaxillary orthognathic surgery.’ 2nd BAMFS and 5th ACBID International Conference, Antalya, Turkey, 25-29 May 2011.
• Serdar Yılmaz, E. Alper Sinanoğlu, Ülkem Cilasun, Yeşim S Gürbüz. ‘Metastatic carcinoma of thyroid gland in inferior alveolar canal: Case Report’. 2nd BAMFS and 5th ACBID International Conference, Antalya, Turkey, 25-29 May 2011.
• Ülkem Cilasun, E. Alper Sinanoğlu, Esra Güzelpınar, Serdar Yılmaz. ‘An unusual laryngeal complication following inferior alveolar nerve block’. 2nd BAMFS and 5th ACBID International Conference, Antalya, Turkey, 25-29 May 2011.
• Ayşe Koçak Büyükdere, Esra Güzeldemir, Serdar Yılmaz. ‘Alternative Therapy for orthodontic treatment: Case Reports’. 16th Congress of the Balkan Stomatological Society, Bucherest, Romenia, 28 April- 1 May 2011.
• Ayşegül Sipahi, Altan Varol, Onur Atalı, Serdar Yılmaz, Selçuk Basa. ‘Reconstruction of the atrophic Maxilla with Interpositional Bone Grafting/Le Fort I Osteotomy and Endosteal Implants.’ 3rd ACBID International Congress, Antalya, TÜRKİYE, Turkey, 22-26 April 2009.
• Onur Atalı, Altan Varol, Ayşegül Sipahi, Serdar Yılmaz, Selçuk Basa. ‘Treatment options for skeletal anterior open bite.’ 3rd ACBID International Congress, Antalya, Turkey, 22-26 April 2009.
• Serdar Yılmaz, Nedim Özer. ‘Treatment options in dentofacial deformities.’ 3rd ACBID International Congress, Antalya, Turkey, 22-26 April 2009.
• Serdar Yılmaz, Selçuk Basa. ‘Postoperative analgesic effect of intraarticular ketamine administration after TMJ arthroscopy.’ 3rd ACBID International Congress, Antalya, Turkey, 22-26 April 2009.
• Serdar Yılmaz, Nedim Özer. ‘Surgical management of benign tumors in young children.’ 3rd ACBID International Congress, Antalya, Turkey, 22-26 April 2009.
• Altan Varol, Serdar Yılmaz, Selçuk Basa. ‘Secondary correction of posttraumatic dentofacial deformaties.’ 3rd ACBID International Congress, Antalya, Turkey, 22-26 April 2009.
• Altan Varol, Ayşegül Sipahi, Onur Atalı, Serdar Yılmaz, Selçuk Basa. ‘Actinomycotic osteomyelitis of the mandible’. 3rd ACBID International Congress, Antalya, Turkey, 22-26 April 2009.
• Ayşegül Sipahi, Altan Varol, Onur Atalı, Sedar Yılmaz, Selçuk Basa. ‘Nerve transposition and implant placement in the atrophic posterior mandibular alveolar ridge’. 3rd ACBID International Congress, Antalya, Turkey, 22-26 April 2009.
• Serdar Yılmaz, Nedim Özer. ‘Reconstruction of atrophic maxilla using onlay bone graft harvested from iliac crest: Report of two cases’. 3rd ACBID International Congress, Antalya, Turkey, 22-26 April 2009.
• Altan Varol, Serdar Yılmaz, Neslihan Türker, Selçuk Basa. ‘Endoscopically assisted transoral open reduction and internal fixation (ORIF) for subcondylar fractures of the mandible’. 3rd ACBID International Congress, Antalya, Turkey, 22-26 April 2009.
• Ayşegül Sipahi, Onur Atalı, Serdar Yılmaz, Altan Varol, Selçuk Basa. ‘Correction of mandibular asymmetry in a patient with owren disease: Case report’. 1st ACBID International Congress, Antalya, Turkey, 16-20 May 2007,
• Serdar Yılmaz, Altan Varol, Ayşegül Sipahi, Onur Atalı, Selçuk Basa. ‘Tooth Injuries due to lag screw fixation in saggital split osteotomy: Case report’. 1st ACBID International Congress, Antalya, Turkey, 16-20 May 2007,
• Serdar Yılmaz, Altan Varol, Ayşegül Sipahi, Onur Atalı, Selçuk Basa. ‘Extraoral versus intraoral maxillary distraction osteogenesis: Advantages and disadvantages.’ 1st ACBID International Congress, Antalya, Turkey, 16-20 May 2007,
• Onur Atalı, Ayşegül Sipahi, Serdar Yılmaz, Altan Varol, Selçuk Basa. ‘Blood Transfusion assesstment in orthognathic surgery: A retrospective study.’ 1st ACBID International Congress, Antalya, Turkey, 16-20 May 2007,
• Esra Arpacı, Altan Varol, Serdar Yılmaz, İmad Salih, Selçuk Basa. ‘Temporalis muscle-fascia flap in temporomandibular joint ankylosis.’ 1st ACBID International Congress, Antalya, Turkey, 16-20 May 2007,
• Basa S, Yilmaz S ,Varol A. Treatment of midface retrusion by maxillary distraction: comparison of rigid intraoral and extraoral distraction systems.
  18th International Conference on Oral & Maxillofacial Surgery, Bangalore, India, 14-18 November 2007.
• Varol A, Yilmaz S, Basa S. Alveolar distraction osteogenesis in posterior mandibular ridges. XVIII European Congress for Cranio-Maxillo-Facial Surgery, Barselona, İspanya, 11-16 Eylül 2006 (Journal of CranioMaxillofacial Surgery 34(2006) Suppl. S1 Abstracts, EACMFS XVIII Congress (O.080)
• Serdar Yılmaz, Selçuk Basa. ‘The case dependant alveolar reconstruction in oral implantology: Criterias for preferring between alveolar distraciton osteogenesis and autogenous bone grafting.’ 17th International Conference on Oral and Maxiloofacial Surgery, Vienna, Austria 28 Agust-4 Sept. 2005.
• Muharrem Güvercin, Onur Gönül, Serdar Yılmaz, Bahar Gürsoy. ‘Reconstruction of large maxillary cyst with demineralized bone graft and membranes: A case report’. 5th International Danubius Conference on Oral and Maxillofacial Surgery, Budapest, Hungary, 29 April – 1 May 2004.
• Serdar Yılmaz, Muharrem Güvercin, Gühan Dergin, İmad Salih. Reconstruction of a localized maxillary anterior bone defect using autogenous bone graft harvested from mandibular symphisis region: Case report’. 5th International Danubius Conference on Oral and Maxillofacial Surgery, Budapest, Hungary, 29 April– 1 May 2004.
• B.Cem Şener, Serdar Yılmaz, Ayşe Koçak, Atilla Sertgöz. ‘Segmental osteotomy of the maxillary sinus flor to preserve the alveolar bone height: Case report’. Turkish Dental Association 11th International Congress, Lütfü Kırdar Congress Center, İstanbul, Turkey, 17-22 May. 2004.
• Onur Gönül, Serdar Yılmaz, Hasan Garip, B. Cem Şener, Kamil Göker. ‘Extraoral Fistula Due to Root Angulation: Case Report’. Turkish Dental Association 11th International Congress, Lütfü Kırdar Congress Center, İstanbul, Turkey, 17-22 May. 2004.
• Serdar Yılmaz, Hasan Garip, Serap Akyüz, Kamil Göker. ‘Süt dişi çekimi sırasında çocuk davranışlarının frankl endeksine göre değerlendirilmesi ve bazı fiziksel bulguların saptanması.’ 11th International Congress of the Turkish Association of Oral and Maxillofaicial Surgeons, Antalya, Turkey, 4-8 June 2003.

MEMBERSHIP IN SCIENTIFIC ORGANIZATIONS

• Turkish Dental Association
• İstanbul Dental Chamber
• Association of Turk Oral and Maxillofacial Surgery
• Oral and Maxillofacial Surgery Society
• International Association of Oral and Maxillofacial Surgery

Dr. Esin Karataş is an orthodontist. She treats children, teens, and adults. She speaks English.

Accreditations: Graduated from Ankara University Faculty of Dentistry (2011). PhD in Orthodontics, Biruni University (2023).

Clinical expertise: Fixed and removable orthodontics for crowding, spacing, and bite correction. Clear aligner therapy, including Invisalign and other systems. Orthopedic treatments in children. Surgical orthodontics. Aesthetic options such as ceramic and lingual braces.

Dr. Nese Gulekoglu is a dentist specializing in general dentistry. She graduated from the Hacettepe University Faculty of Dentistry in 2017. She provides care in English.

Her practice includes preventive, restorative, endodontic, aesthetic, and prosthetic dentistry. Services include oral exams, dental cleanings, patient education, fillings, crowns, bridges, root canal treatments, teeth whitening, composite bonding, smile design, and removable and fixed prostheses. She offers patient-focused, personalized care.

With over 25 years of experience, the doctor specializes in oral cancers, porcelain crowns and bridges, prosthetic dental treatment, implantology, and more. The doctor leads the Istanbul Dental and Plastic & Esthetic Group and has attended numerous vocational courses internationally, including in England, Germany, and Greece. A frequent speaker at dental congresses in Turkey, the doctor is an accredited dentist for several embassies and has numerous publications in medical journals. The doctor graduated from the Hacettepe Faculty of Dentistry in 1990.

Areas of Interests

• Orthodontic treatment with clear aligners
   
• Maintaining impacted teeth in the jawbone
   
• Fixed orthodontic treatments with and without extraction • Orthodontic treatment in adults
   
• Functional orthopedic treatments
   
• Movable appliances

Education
 

• Istanbul University Faculty of Dentistry 2002
   
• Gazi University Faculty of Dentistry Department of Orthodontics 2009
   

Experience
 

• 2009-2017 Orthodontic Specialist in Nişantaşı, Levent, Bahçelievler, Mecidiyeköy and Fulya practices and clinics
   
• Private Memorial Şişli Hospital Oral and Dental Health Polyclinic 09.2010 – 01.2011
   
• Private Dentistanbul Ataşehir Oral and Dental Health Center – Orthodontist 12.2014-06.2015 • Dr. Dt. Rose Burcu Büyükbayram practice 10.2020 – Continue

Dr. Elif Keçeci is a general dentist. She graduated from Yeditepe University Faculty of Dentistry in 2018. She provides preventive, restorative, and aesthetic dental care.

Expertise: routine check-ups, scaling, and oral hygiene; fillings, crowns, and bridges; teeth whitening, bonding, and smile design; removable and fixed prosthetics; pediatric and family dentistry. She speaks English.

Dr Nazli Hilal Guvener is an orthodontist with a specialization in prosthodontics. She completed prosthodontics training at Bezmialem Vakıf University in 2020. She earned her DDS from Ondokuz Mayıs University in 2011. She restores oral function and aesthetics with advanced prosthetic treatments.

Her expertise includes fixed and removable prosthetics, such as crowns, bridges, and full or partial dentures. She plans and restores implant‑supported prosthetics. She also offers aesthetic dentistry, including smile design, veneers, and laminates. She provides full‑mouth rehabilitation.

She uses digital dentistry, including CAD/CAM. She provides meticulous, evidence‑based care. Language: English.

Dr. Faruk Feyyaz Daştan is a general dentist and a graduate of the Faculty of Dentistry. He provides functional and aesthetic care. His approach is modern and patient-focused. He offers comprehensive, tailored treatments in English.

His clinical focus includes preventive care (check-ups, scaling, education), restorative care (fillings, crowns, bridges), endodontics (root canal therapy), and aesthetic procedures (teeth whitening, composite bonding, smile design). He also provides prosthetic solutions, both fixed and removable. He is known for meticulous, patient-centered care.

Areas of Interests

• Endoscopic sinus surgery,
• Head and neck cancer surgery
• Allergic rhinitis diagnosis and treatments
• Pediatric ENT Diseases
• Ear Diseases

Education

• Secondary education Ataköy High School (1982-1988)
• Istanbul University Cerrahpasa Faculty of Medicine (1988-1995)
• Foundation Gureba Training and Research Hospital, K.B.B. specialization training (1995-1999)

Experience

• Vakıf Gureba Training and Research Hospital, Clinic of ENT (Specialist) 1999 -2010
• Şişli Hamidiye Etfal Training and Research Hospital (Specialist) 2010-2012
• Outpatient clinic, clinical and surgical studies on Endoscopic Sinus Surgery at Graz Medical Faculty, Department of ENT Diseases March 2010
• Şisli Hamidiye Etfal Training and Research Hospital (Associate Professor) 2012-2018
• Şişli Hamidiye Etfal Training and Research Hospital (Professor and Clinical Administrative Officer) 2018-2023

Dr. Ahmet Sağlıklı is a dentist specialising in periodontology. He graduated from the Atatürk University Faculty of Dentistry in 2017. He completed his periodontology specialisation at Dicle University in 2022. He focuses on preventing, diagnosing, and treating periodontal diseases. He uses modern techniques.

His clinical scope includes periodontal therapy and surgical periodontology. This covers flap surgery, regenerative procedures, and guided tissue regeneration. He performs implantology, including implant placement, bone augmentation, and sinus lifting. He also offers soft tissue procedures, such as gum contouring and gingival grafts. He provides preventive maintenance. He speaks English.

Areas of Interests

• Rhinoplasty
   
• Head and Neck Cancers (facial and scalp, tongue, lips, mouth, pharynx, larynx, neck lymph nodes, salivary glands and thyroid cancer surgeries)
   
• Childhood ENT diseases
   
• Sleep apnea and snoring surgery
   
• Surgeries for functional nasal obstructions (turbinates, nasal polyps, etc.)
   
• Surgical treatments of hearing loss
   
• Ear diseases

Education:
 

• Cerrahpaşa Faculty of Medicine (English Department)
   
• Istanbul Faculty of Medicine (Capa) ENT Diseases
   
• Turkish Otorhinolaryngology Surgery Qualification Certificate
   
• University of Pittsburgh Department of ENT Diseases (UPMC) observer physician
   
• Italy Insubria University Department of ENT Diseases observer physician

Experience
 

• Liv Hospital Ulus
   
• Gaziosmanpasa Medical Park Hospital
   
• Bahcelievler Memorial Hospital
   
• Dr. Lütfi Kırdar Training and Research Hospital
   
• Umraniye Training and Research Hospital
   
• Ardahan State Hospital (compulsory service)

Areas of Interests

• Orthodontic Treatment with Transparent Plates
• Smile Design
• Techniques for Accelerating Teeth Movement

Education

• Marmara University Dentistry Faculty - 2011
• Yeditepe University Dentistry Faculty Orthodontics Department - 2018

Experience

• Gebze Anadolu Health Center (2014-2019)
• Istanbul Dental Center (2015-2019)
• Liv Hospital Ulus 2018 – 2019)

• Clinical and Histomorphometrical Examination of Effects of Alveolar Decortication Count to Teeth Movement on Rats

• Turkish Orthodontics Association
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• Turkish Dentists Association

Areas of Interests

• Prosthetic Dentistry
• Overimplant Prosthesis
• Aesthetic Dentistry
• Digital Dentistry
• Laser Assisted Dentistry

Education

• Bolu Science High School
• Yeditepe University Dentistry Faculty
• İstanbul University - Dentistry Faculty – Prosthetic Dentistry Department

Experiences

• Medicadent Mouth & Dental Health Polyclinics (2010-2018)
• Liv Hospital Ulus 2018 – continued
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• Memberships
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• Global Dentists Association
• Computer Aided Dentistry Academy – CADA
• Turkish Dentists Association

Dr. İbrahim Mollaalioğlu is a general dentist. He graduated from Medeniyet University Faculty of Dentistry. He offers comprehensive dental care and consults in English.

His practice covers preventive care, restorative dentistry, endodontics, aesthetic dentistry, and prosthetic dentistry. Services include oral exams, cleaning, patient education, fillings, crowns, bridges, modern root canal treatment, teeth whitening, bonding, smile design, and fixed or removable dentures.

He follows a modern, patient-friendly approach. He provides individualized care to support oral function and improve the smile.

Dr. Siavash Abbasgholizadeh is an oral and maxillofacial surgeon and implant specialist with over 15 years of clinical experience. He graduated from Marmara University. He also completed his specialization in oral and maxillofacial surgery there.

At Dentfix Turkey, he performs advanced procedures, including dental implants, zygomatic implants, and sinus lifts.

He is known for precise technique and clear communication. His care is patient-focused, with an emphasis on safety and informed decisions.

The doctor is a highly experienced medical professional specializing in cardiovascular surgery. With over 20 years in the field, the doctor has performed numerous complex heart surgeries, contributing significantly to advancements in minimally invasive techniques. The doctor is board-certified and has been recognized for excellence in patient care and surgical outcomes.

Graduating from a leading medical school, the doctor completed a prestigious fellowship in cardiac surgery. The doctor has published extensively in peer-reviewed journals and actively participates in international conferences.

The doctor graduated from Istanbul University Faculty of Dentistry in 1988 and founded Berge Oral and Dental Health Services LLC in 1991. Specializing in esthetic dentistry, implant and graft applications, and laser dentistry, the doctor completed advanced training at institutions such as the California Dental Institute and the Las Vegas Institute. The doctor holds master's degrees in Laser Dentistry and Implant Surgery from Marconi University and has been a guest professor there since 2016. The doctor has participated in numerous international congresses and served as president of the Istanbul Dental Institute from 2010 to 2012.